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	<title>Comments on: MSF Cinema advert &#8230; what do you think?</title>
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		<title>By: MSF loses a supporter &#171; haba na haba</title>
		<link>http://duckrabbit.info/blog/2009/08/msf-cineama-advert-have-your-say/comment-page-1/#comment-6860</link>
		<dc:creator>MSF loses a supporter &#171; haba na haba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] excellent care to people who have few if any other options. But recent ad campaigns by MSF have gotten out of hand. Take the latest example, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Black Box of Suffering at humanitarian.info</title>
		<link>http://duckrabbit.info/blog/2009/08/msf-cineama-advert-have-your-say/comment-page-1/#comment-6434</link>
		<dc:creator>A Black Box of Suffering at humanitarian.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been much kerfuffle about the latest MSF advert. Follow the links for more discussion and the video itself, if you can [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul C</title>
		<link>http://duckrabbit.info/blog/2009/08/msf-cineama-advert-have-your-say/comment-page-1/#comment-6433</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a little thing that MSF may have heard of (although they don&#039;t subscribe to it) called the Red Cross Code of Conduct. Point 10 of the code states: &quot;In our information, publicity and advertising activities, we shall recognise disaster victims as dignified humans, not hopeless objects.&quot; This advert very clearly depicts hopeless objects rather than dignified humans, It also reinforces the stereotype historically peddled by British charities that They (the poor, the dark, the Other, however  you want to view it) are helpless, and We are the only ones who can provide help.

MSF does good work in the field, there&#039;s no doubt about that, but by allowing this advert to be shown, you have shown that you are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Why not try to engage and educate the British public, rather than patronise them with this throwback to the worst 20th century fundraising tropes? These people are not just victims waiting for MSF to save them, and to pretend that they are is to sacrifice the reality of their lives for the sake of your media profile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a little thing that MSF may have heard of (although they don&#8217;t subscribe to it) called the Red Cross Code of Conduct. Point 10 of the code states: &#8220;In our information, publicity and advertising activities, we shall recognise disaster victims as dignified humans, not hopeless objects.&#8221; This advert very clearly depicts hopeless objects rather than dignified humans, It also reinforces the stereotype historically peddled by British charities that They (the poor, the dark, the Other, however  you want to view it) are helpless, and We are the only ones who can provide help.</p>
<p>MSF does good work in the field, there&#8217;s no doubt about that, but by allowing this advert to be shown, you have shown that you are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Why not try to engage and educate the British public, rather than patronise them with this throwback to the worst 20th century fundraising tropes? These people are not just victims waiting for MSF to save them, and to pretend that they are is to sacrifice the reality of their lives for the sake of your media profile.</p>
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		<title>By: Whose house is that? The MSF video &#124; Clues in the Labyrinth</title>
		<link>http://duckrabbit.info/blog/2009/08/msf-cineama-advert-have-your-say/comment-page-1/#comment-6426</link>
		<dc:creator>Whose house is that? The MSF video &#124; Clues in the Labyrinth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they’re doing. Some links to where the discussion took place: Osocio, The Road to the Horizon, Duckrabbit, Aidwatch and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: George Darroch</title>
		<link>http://duckrabbit.info/blog/2009/08/msf-cineama-advert-have-your-say/comment-page-1/#comment-6424</link>
		<dc:creator>George Darroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also completely fail to see in any way how this is exploitative. I&#039;m lost on that. The pain is real. The solutions are real. And this presents both in an honest way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also completely fail to see in any way how this is exploitative. I&#8217;m lost on that. The pain is real. The solutions are real. And this presents both in an honest way.</p>
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		<title>By: George Darroch</title>
		<link>http://duckrabbit.info/blog/2009/08/msf-cineama-advert-have-your-say/comment-page-1/#comment-6423</link>
		<dc:creator>George Darroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a further addition to my comment - it&#039;s important to show the person on the receiving end of the sales pitch how they are part of the solution, to make them feel that they are taking actions that are resolving that problem you&#039;ve created for them. In MSF&#039;s case, they often show how your X dollars buys Y surgical equipment, in the same way as dollar a day sponsorship organisations. If the ad had shown MSF people coming in at the end, and said &#039;your contribution helps buy X,Y,Z&#039; it might have got there.

I think with increased skepticism about the long term effects of their giving (despite the successes), it needs to be demonstrated how your giving makes a particular solution possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a further addition to my comment &#8211; it&#8217;s important to show the person on the receiving end of the sales pitch how they are part of the solution, to make them feel that they are taking actions that are resolving that problem you&#8217;ve created for them. In MSF&#8217;s case, they often show how your X dollars buys Y surgical equipment, in the same way as dollar a day sponsorship organisations. If the ad had shown MSF people coming in at the end, and said &#8216;your contribution helps buy X,Y,Z&#8217; it might have got there.</p>
<p>I think with increased skepticism about the long term effects of their giving (despite the successes), it needs to be demonstrated how your giving makes a particular solution possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Advertising umanitario &#124; Umanitari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Advertising umanitario &#124; Umanitari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] inserito all&#8217;inizio di questo post è la scelta del loro web editor di pubblicare on line i commenti ricevuti via blog, twitter, facebook dagli spettatori. Ne è nato un dibattito estremamente ricco [...]</description>
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		<title>By: George Darroch</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Darroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has worked in sales and marketing for a major NGO, I have a couple of comments.

These sales techniques work, no matter what you are selling. Cars, toothpaste, environmental destruction. You create a lack, a need, a void in your consumer, and then you come in to present a solution fill that void. 

Firstly, there is nothing wrong with shocking people, making them feel bad about something. That&#039;s a necessary part of the sales pitch. But after you suckerpunch someone with the inevitable suffering, you spend at least half of your time lifting them up, providing them with the SOLUTION to the problem you&#039;ve created. It&#039;s important to present a concrete and specific solution when they sign up (a field hospital in country X, a campaign on issue Y), rather than a generalised (save the world) solution, otherwise the buyer might feel a little ripped off when they realise the world hasn&#039;t been saved 2 years later. Amnesty International, with their focus on individual cases and individual successes, is very good at this.

I don&#039;t think this ad does that, not properly enough. At the end, we still feel a little too powerless. Those who already understand what MSF does will not feel powerless, but I don&#039;t think it will resonate quite the same with those who don&#039;t. It is much better than most ads, and it&#039;s almost there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has worked in sales and marketing for a major NGO, I have a couple of comments.</p>
<p>These sales techniques work, no matter what you are selling. Cars, toothpaste, environmental destruction. You create a lack, a need, a void in your consumer, and then you come in to present a solution fill that void. </p>
<p>Firstly, there is nothing wrong with shocking people, making them feel bad about something. That&#8217;s a necessary part of the sales pitch. But after you suckerpunch someone with the inevitable suffering, you spend at least half of your time lifting them up, providing them with the SOLUTION to the problem you&#8217;ve created. It&#8217;s important to present a concrete and specific solution when they sign up (a field hospital in country X, a campaign on issue Y), rather than a generalised (save the world) solution, otherwise the buyer might feel a little ripped off when they realise the world hasn&#8217;t been saved 2 years later. Amnesty International, with their focus on individual cases and individual successes, is very good at this.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this ad does that, not properly enough. At the end, we still feel a little too powerless. Those who already understand what MSF does will not feel powerless, but I don&#8217;t think it will resonate quite the same with those who don&#8217;t. It is much better than most ads, and it&#8217;s almost there.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://duckrabbit.info/blog/2009/08/msf-cineama-advert-have-your-say/comment-page-1/#comment-6420</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@val @duckrabbit: I am trying to ignite a debate about the debate, which by definition is relevant to it. In that sense it is very similar to e.g. Frank Lee&#039;s comment above, who just like me comments on the impact of what is going in the comments here rather than the clip itself. Similar for e.g. the third paragraph of MattyC&#039;s original response.

Furthermore, it is relevant to the clip in an indirect way: the clip (I would assume) is supposed to support MSF&#039;s work in one way or another. If the way the debate around the clip is conducted is damaging that work unnecessarily, don&#039;t you think that is relevant? And if you don&#039;t: why bother with the clip in the first place? (Unless you have the view that it doesn&#039;t matter whether or not MSF&#039;s field work is damaged and you only want to discuss the clip on its narrow technical merits; but I hope and expect that is not the case -- I don&#039;t think you are that cynical.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@val @duckrabbit: I am trying to ignite a debate about the debate, which by definition is relevant to it. In that sense it is very similar to e.g. Frank Lee&#8217;s comment above, who just like me comments on the impact of what is going in the comments here rather than the clip itself. Similar for e.g. the third paragraph of MattyC&#8217;s original response.</p>
<p>Furthermore, it is relevant to the clip in an indirect way: the clip (I would assume) is supposed to support MSF&#8217;s work in one way or another. If the way the debate around the clip is conducted is damaging that work unnecessarily, don&#8217;t you think that is relevant? And if you don&#8217;t: why bother with the clip in the first place? (Unless you have the view that it doesn&#8217;t matter whether or not MSF&#8217;s field work is damaged and you only want to discuss the clip on its narrow technical merits; but I hope and expect that is not the case &#8212; I don&#8217;t think you are that cynical.)</p>
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		<title>By: duckrabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>duckrabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But your comments have nothing to do with the advert ... they are totally irrelevant to the debate here.</description>
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